for example, susanna martinez, the first latina governor. marco rubio, ted cruz, michael steele. we also have in louisiana, the governor there, mr. jindal. republicans never get credit. nicky haley, she is a republican female governor and yet you don't see her on the front pages. instead, what you're talking about is this nonstory about whether or not house republicans have women in leadership positions. but you never mention all of the minorities of women who are leading this party forward. at the republican convention, just this last summer, you saw such a diverse roster taking that stage. but what are we talking about today? white males. >> well, that happens to be the topic today. i can't say we never address that. we've talked a lot about nicky haley and others on this program. but we've also talked a lot about abortion in the past and how some controversial comments about it cost a couple republican hopefuls. amy is there room in the party for a pro-choice candidate. and could they actually win? >> indeed, i think there is room for a pro-choice candidate when mayor giuliani